just spent way too long looking for a decent youtube playlist downloader and finally found some solid options. been testing a few and honestly the desktop ones hit different - FliFlik UltConv is pretty slick if you want everything in one place, handles 8K video which seems overkill but nice to have. for command line nerds there's yt-dlp which is basically the speedrunner version, free and super customizable. on mobile, NewPipe is legit if you care about privacy, way lighter than the official app. also stumbled on this Telegram bot approach which is kinda genius - just paste a link in Telegram and it downloads, no extra app needed. if you just want something quick without installing anything, the online tools like Loader.to work fine but honestly the quality varies. the real game changer is batch downloading whole playlists instead of one by one, saves so much time. anyone else been using a youtube playlist downloader bot or these tools? curious what people prefer between desktop vs mobile vs just using the web version